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RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Mark Oates on Wednesday, 22nd February 2012, 21:20

Reviewer

Excellent points all, Rob. I'm feeling a lot less pessimistic about the online future Grinning

I agree many people will prefer a free internet to a totally safe one, but the question is are they in the majority?. My fear is that the US-centricity of the internet could lead to a growing McDonalds-style movement within the web where conservative middle America messes up the rest of the internet for the rest of us by buying into the Corporate America vision for the future.

J Mark Oates
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RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by bandicoot on Wednesday, 22nd February 2012, 23:06

Elite

One of the future ways the internet can be controlled is by cost.

At the moment we pay a provider for a one off price per month to surf the net, and get onto free websites, like this one. This allows us to give advice and get advice.

Other sites like car websites help owners to sort out their car problems freely.

But...
There are sites out there that are now asking for an annual fee to be a member. Everytime this happens and they start charging I leave these sites and find a free similar one (one of my car websites did this recently and 80% of us left to join a free one).

Now, this is my worry about the future of internet, if they started charging pay per website viewing that would enevitably lead to most people leaving the internet though unaffordable costs.

That would change the WWW internet just as badly as Chinese state controled internet.

RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Mark Oates on Wednesday, 22nd February 2012, 23:25

Reviewer

Well, look at Murdoch's idiot idea of making the News International sites subscription only. The internet has a long-established free-to-use culture - basically what ticks off copyright holders in the film and music industries - and internet users resist anything that involves payment. What would really threaten the current model of the internet would be some kind of all-inclusive deal whereby your broadband contract would give you access to a restricted, firewalled suite of sites - something like the YouTube/ BBC iPlayer/ Netflix etc package the new SmartTVs offer.

J Mark Oates
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RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Mikeonfreeserve on Saturday, 25th February 2012, 06:44

Elite

Satellite internet will be the next breakthrough I reckon

No visible infrastructure that can be switched off and lots of powerful handheld devices

Lets see the chinese cope with that

Bloody rip off merchants





RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Mark Oates on Sunday, 26th February 2012, 05:05

Reviewer

Actually, I think the biggest sea-change in the internet is already upon us, and it's "the cloud".  As you say, Mike - lots of powerful handheld devices (and similar capabilities built into fridges and the like).  You won't need to browse any more because each device will hook into the appropriate services from the cloud (with a little but not much overlap).  All the devices will have a proper, secure, idiotproof handshaking protocol which means as you pick up a device, all the relevant information migrates from the last thing you were using.  You'll start doing your Tesco shop on your new 5G mobile.  As you approach the fridge, the data will flick up on the screen on the door and you can either keep shopping on the phone or move to the fridge - or even sit down at the table and use the overhead projected virtual screen.  Most of this technology is already with us, and it's only a matter of time before we've all got a ubiquitous online presence.

I notice with a lot of "smart" kit like tvs and DVD players and the like that the internet experience tends to be limited at best.  I think that may be the way the powers that be get the "safe, controlled" internet I've been banging on about.  A lot of people will wind up not running proper computers like we use today, they'll be using kit like these stripped-down, driveless ultrabooks to do schoolwork and traditional application jobs in the cloud, otherwise mobile phones or smart-enabled devices like kitchen appliances, tvs etc.

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This item was edited on Sunday, 26th February 2012, 05:11

RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Jimbo :oÞ on Sunday, 26th February 2012, 06:26

Elite Donator

Quote:
Mark Oates says...
As you approach the fridge, the data will flick up on the screen on the door and you can either keep shopping on the phone or move to the fridge - o
LG were working on an American Style fridge freezer (as were Samsung IIRC) that you scanned whatever you took out of it (or selected it via menus) and it either added it to a grocery shopping list or ordered it then and there from a pre-set up online account that you told it to total and deliver whenever you were ready.

Great idea in theory, no idea how far it went/has gone in the practical sense.

Jimbo : oÞ

"There's that word again... is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull in the future?"

RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Paull on Sunday, 26th February 2012, 10:00

Elite

Quote:
Jimbo ShockedÞ says...
LG were working on an American Style fridge freezer (as were Samsung IIRC) that you scanned whatever you took out of it (or selected it via menus) and it either added it to a grocery shopping list or ordered it then and there from a pre-set up online account that you told it to total and deliver whenever you were ready.

One problem. If you buy a food to try & don't like it & it re orders it & you forget to cancel.

RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by marksparks999 on Sunday, 26th February 2012, 10:22

Elite

you can already buy internet enabled fridges

RE: How Long Do You Give The Internet In Its Current Form?
posted by Mark Oates on Tuesday, 28th February 2012, 03:42

Reviewer

Quote:
Most of this technology is already with us
The important phrase.

I've seen internet fridges on a couple of tv shows, and I believe you can get a stick-on frame so you can clip an iPad on the outside of your fridge, if you want.  My point wasn't so much "ooh look, an internet fridge" as these integrated technologies will eventually supercede our current dedicated-hardware model (PCs and laptops).

BTW, has anybody noticed how many of the filesharing sites are shutting up shop or turning into file repositories?  And that ChillingEffects.Org are happily blanket-bombing the web with DMCA cease-and-desist notices?  There's obviously a new sheriff in Stodge City and he's running the cattle-rustlers and gunslingers out of town.

J Mark Oates
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